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Message par Duke Mer 29 Avr - 16:31

Bernie a écrit:Faut aussi trouver le refrain qui va rentrer direct dans la cage à miel Very Happy
Ca ressemble à du Zégut (pour les connaisseurs!) Smile
Cela dit, tu as raison, il faut trouver un truc béton comme refrain et c'est ce qu'il y a de plus dur ... mais je vais trouver!
Chris ... lead part:
Well, the harmonies remind me of Thin Lizzy ... but even more the second part (01'01") ... a John Sykes era kind of solo ... which I dig but ... and there is a but ... Smile Will this somehow fit in what we already have? We'll see when the whole thing takes shape ...
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Message par ExtraPaul Mer 29 Avr - 19:09

Je suis moins convaincu par le début, mais je sens qu'il était tard et que tout le monde dormait !
A 0'49" ça me plait, en imaginant ça avec une grosse voix bien gueulante.
C'est marrant parce que j'ai l'impression d'entendre un autotune...

Une idée (mais elle risque de revenir à chaque fois que tu chante une partie calme): une chanteuse pourrait intervenir sur ce passage calme (suivez mon regard...).
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Message par Duke Jeu 30 Avr - 4:02

ExtraPaul a écrit:Je suis moins convaincu par le début
Ce sera plus utilisé comme transition
ExtraPaul a écrit:avec une grosse voix bien gueulante
Là tu te trompes de groupe ... Smile
ExtraPaul a écrit:j'ai l'impression d'entendre un autotune
Pas d'autotune ici ...
ExtraPaul a écrit:une chanteuse pourrait intervenir sur ce passage calme
J'ai fait un test avant-hier avec une voix "féminisée" ... et en effet ça peut éventuellement s'envisager ...
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Message par Jaeger Jeu 30 Avr - 6:01

Duke a écrit:
ExtraPaul a écrit:une chanteuse pourrait intervenir sur ce passage calme
J'ai fait un test avant-hier avec une voix "féminisée" ... et en effet ça peut éventuellement s'envisager ...

I can also give it a shot ... but only if Duke takes over the Lady part, I am usually the Man in my relationships afro
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Message par Bernie Jeu 30 Avr - 6:51

Don't panic we have a real woman that can hadle this Wink
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Message par Jaeger Jeu 30 Avr - 8:36

Duke a écrit:
Bernie a écrit:Faut aussi trouver le refrain qui va rentrer direct dans la cage à miel Very Happy
Chris ... lead part:
Well, the harmonies remind me of Thin Lizzy ... but even more the second part (01'01") ... a John Sykes era kind of solo ... which I dig but ... and there is a but ... Smile Will this somehow fit in what we already have? We'll see when the whole thing takes shape ...

John Sykes? Wow, I had worse comparisons What a Face

But to be fair, for the level of his playing, I'd have to find how to shift to that 4th and 5th gear ...

Re the "does it match", I agree. Guess we can drop it. I haven't done any harmony guitars before, so I was playing around a bit. Maybe Bernie can come up with something that matches better.
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Message par Duke Jeu 30 Avr - 9:04

Guess we can drop it
Bernard likes it ... So I think it would be good "to keep it under the elbow" ... And let the whole thing shape up ...
By the way ... if you have an idea for the voice melody chorus ... feel free to share it ... Cool
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Message par Jaeger Jeu 30 Avr - 23:37

Added some new twists towards the end of the track. I think I found a guitar style that suits the song better, with only a short solo part but more repetitive patterns. See Gmail.
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Message par Bernie Ven 1 Mai - 6:52

Good work! I like the adds at the end. Maybe the solo part has to be improved a bit but the powerfull part with double bass is awsome.
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Message par Jaeger Ven 1 Mai - 10:22

Bernie a écrit:Good work! I like the adds at the end. Maybe the solo part has to be improved a bit but the powerfull part with double bass is awsome.

Good feedback. If you have an idea for lead bit, please feel free to lay down some tracks.
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Message par Bernie Ven 1 Mai - 10:31

I will try to put some leads. We can put some alternate leads like in Judas Piest or Megadeth... However I do not have their technique Very Happy
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Message par Jaeger Ven 1 Mai - 10:37

Bernie a écrit:I will try to put some leads. We can put some alternate leads like in Judas Piest or Megadeth... However I do not have their technique Very Happy

Technique is overrated. Let's try to focus on melody and tone, at least that would be somehow unique in metal land ... well apart from Opeth, but their leads although genius melody wise, are a bit too mellow for me regarding the attitude they put in, feels a bit like Yoga gurus playing guitar ... I'd rather have some rugby style but with very nice harmonies ... guess I'm talking a bit silly now Razz

Off to Germany now, see you Monday! (I might be able to log in once in a while but it's a bit complicated there).
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Message par Bernie Dim 3 Mai - 15:00

I've posted something. It's a small solo part in diminished scale .
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Message par Jaeger Lun 4 Mai - 7:38

I really like the way you played the rhythm, with the slight bend on the last note, very cool. I'd like to keep the harmonized part at 3:52 til 4:04 of the lead part I posted, but not yet sure what should happen after.
It's a good piece you added but I find it difficult to see how it lifts it to lead into the next part at 4:35, so I think it needs to pick up on speed somehow and have the 2 guitars join together.

Maybe if we have some time in one of the rehearsals soon, we could jam a bit on it and record and see if we come up with something?
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Message par Bernie Lun 4 Mai - 7:42

Yes we can do that.
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Message par Duke Mar 7 Juil - 12:22

Can you please post the new Chorus with the voice ... I think the last take is the best ... Thanks
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Message par Jaeger Mar 7 Juil - 12:24

Duke a écrit:Can you please post the new Chorus with the voice ... I think the last take is the best ... Thanks

Transferring the files now. Will need to do some cutting/normalising/encoding etc. Will post later today or tomorrow.
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Message par ExtraPaul Mar 7 Juil - 12:51

Will need to do some cutting/normalising/encoding etc
Yes, and it's a lot of time! Thank you Chris for all these jobs. Before your presence in the band it's was my job and I know how much time is it...

But I plan to buy a recording gear like your in october, in Honk Kong, when I come back from Nepal...
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Message par Bernie Mar 7 Juil - 14:09

Les fichiers sont postés. Qu'en pensez-vous?
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Message par Jaeger Mar 7 Juil - 14:42

It's kinda nice as a chord sequence, but I cannot tell anything unless I put the other parts with this together and see how it sounds then.

Not sure about the rhythm of the refrain pattern, I might slightly wanna alter the rhythmic feel of it.

By the way I posted the other stuff from yesterday, too.
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Message par Jaeger Mar 7 Juil - 14:50

ExtraPaul a écrit:
Will need to do some cutting/normalising/encoding etc
Yes, and it's a lot of time! Thank you Chris for all these jobs. Before your presence in the band it's was my job and I know how much time is it...

But I plan to buy a recording gear like your in october, in Honk Kong, when I come back from Nepal...

Thanks for your appreciation Paul. It's good if we can share the effort (one week you one week me) Wink

You should look at the:
Tascam DR-1 (the one I have)
Tascam DR-07 (cheaper version of what I have)
Tascam DR-100 (more expensive version of what I have)
Sony PCM D50 (more expensive, but awesome quality - maybe affordable in HongKong)
Edirol R-09 HR (similar quality/price as the Tascam DR-1)

I would stay away from Zoom, they are crap. The Olympus looks nice and is sized like a mobile phone, but it distorted via the internal mics when I tested it with a loud drumset at key music/rue midi.
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Message par ExtraPaul Mar 7 Juil - 16:50

OK. But my choice will depend on the shops in Honk Kong...
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Message par Duke Mer 8 Juil - 11:53

Pour en revenir au sujet de ce topic ...
Je suis de l'avis de Chris. Il est difficile de se faire une réelle idée de la qualité de ce nouveau refrain ... Faudra attendre que les autres élements se mettent en place pour vraiment juger ... mais j'aime bien et ça a du potentiel ...
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Message par Jaeger Mer 8 Juil - 14:27

Ok, some new stuff posted, no great mix or something, just a draft of how the new refrain could sit in the arrangement.

No longer sure about the jazzy part...
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Message par Duke Mer 8 Juil - 20:49

At 1'23 ... there is something missing (between the verse and the chorus) ... There should be a transition there ...
Now about the jazzy part ... This song should not start with that but with the mellow part ... It can be kept but it should be, in my opinion, a little shorter ... from 1'48 to 1'54 (so, two runs) ... it is enough.
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