Riot in your head

ExtraPaul a écrit:Chris: at measure 75 (1'53") there is the out of the chorus...
... but the number of measures is strange: 3,5 measures ! (7 x 2/4 in fact).

It's the part Phil doesn't like

It's a deliberate thing that the guitar is running against the drums, I think originally it was played 8 times and then it ended on an even measure, but I was asked to shorten it, which is why it doesn't add up.

This part is a bit lost in the song now and maybe we can put it on hold or use it in a different song. Not sure anymore if it still adds something on this one.

I really like the verse and the chorus now though...

It's the part Phil doesn't like

Yes I know but me and Bernard like it.

I'm not sure to understand why 3,5 measures: we will see this this evening...

ExtraPaul a écrit:

It's the part Phil doesn't like

Yes I know but me and Bernard like it.

I'm not sure to understand why 3,5 measures: we will see this this evening...

I think it ended up being 7 measures and the 8th was the bridge riff that we removed (too Metallica like).

Guess we'll have to fix it somehow if it's wrong then ...

I think we worked out a good structure for this today. I'll pull it all together tomorrow and post a latest version as well some clips of what we worked on today.

The tempo is still 157?

Duke a écrit:The tempo is still 157?

Yes

I will post some clips later today.

From me the priority would be the chorus (the initial version is the best I think) ... The take where you loop on it ...

Duke a écrit:From me the priority would be the chorus (the initial version is the best I think) ... The take where you loop on it ...

Refrain for Phil posted.

J'ai posté 2 versions pour ce new chorus ... Dites moi ce que vous en pensez ...

A choisir plutôt la 1 mais sans la contrevoix derrière.

complete structure as played yesterday posted.

I'll do some work on the solo bit today or tomorrow ...

I'll post some other riff ideas for the chorus beacause i'm still not convinced (sorry ;-). But I have my childrens, my mother and my girlfriend home and it's impossible for me to work properly in these conditions.

Le "Chorus 1" a une mélodie plus recherchée mais ne donne pas l'impression d'un refrain. Peut-être aussi parce que c'est chanté calmement (il faudrait arrêter de t'enregistrer à 3h du mat... ;-).

Le "Chorus 2" est plus classique mais ressemble plus à un refrain.

Donc ma préférence pour le chorus 2, en me disant que le côté rock classique pourrait être complété d'un effet (dans l'esprit de Day After Day).
Par exemple, faire boucler à la noire le "Life" jusqu'à la phrase suivante.
Et c'est pour ça que pour lundi prochain tu vas faire un preset dans ton JamMan...

this is it:
INTRO
1xSynth Intro
1xSynth Intro + Pad + Picked Guitar1 + Bass D-F

VERSE1
1xPad+Picked Guitar1+Muted Guitar2 (D)+Bass D-F+Vocals Melody1
2xPad+Muted Guitar1+Muted Guitar2 (D)+Bass D-F+Vocals Melody2
2xRiff Guitar 1&2 D-C-Bb-E + Bass D-C-Bb-E+Vocals Melody 3

REFRAIN 1
1x Octaved Guitar Harmony Bridge

2x Main Theme Refrain
2x Refrain with Guitar Harmony

VERSE 2
1xSynth Intro
1xPad+Picked Guitar1+Muted Guitar2 (D)+Bass D-F+Vocals Melody1
2xPad+Muted Guitar1+Muted Guitar2 (D)+Bass D-F+Vocals Melody2
2xRiff Guitar 1&2 D-C-Bb-E + Bass D-C-Bb-E+Vocals Melody 3

REFRAIN 2
1x Octaved Guitar Harmony Bridge

2x Main Theme Refrain
2x Refrain with Guitar Harmony

SOLO
2xD Theme Guitar 1 & 2
2xD Theme Guitar 1 & Harmony Guitar 2
2xD Theme Guitar 1 & Solo Guitar 2

VERSE 3 (partial)
2xRiff Guitar 1&2 D-C-Bb-E + Bass D-C-Bb-E+Vocals Melody 3

REFRAIN 3
1x Octaved Guitar Harmony Bridge
2x Main Theme Refrain
2x Refrain with Guitar Harmony
1x Octaved Guitar Harmony Bridge-END

there was an alternative chorus yesterday, following Olis bassline, but we preferred the original, I posted it anyways.

I posted something.

Bernie a écrit:I posted something.

That sounds VERY COOL!

it's different. maybe more "driving". So that it can (maybe) lead to vocals that sound more like a chorus as Paul said.

new version of the song up incl the final structure, the new chorus proposal and a solo added

it's pretty patchwork with files from Phil and Bernie and recordings at different times ... seems like this track is hard work and it shows on the number of takes and mails we had so far ... normally I would say that's a bad sign but maybe this one really needs the iterative approach.

the drums sound cool, did you take a loop, use DFH or play them with the e-drum?

It's e-drums played through the "headbanger kit" of garage band.

I hope that I will be able to listen to all this carefully but as I said I'm currently not in an environment that is suitable for making music

Moreover we should not be in a hurry with the new songs : it is better to let them find their way to sound the best. I don't mind if we don't play new stuff at the Yernawe.

I don't mind if we don't play new stuff at the Yernawe.

Oui, tout à fait d'accord avec ça.
On devrait se contenter de défendre l'album: il comporte suffisamment de nouveautés pour le public qui nous verra à Yernawe...

Le but n'est pas de jouer de nouveaux morceau absolument ... mais si ca se met en place ... pourquoi pas ... histoire de tester en live la qualité du morceau ... et histoire de se faire plaisir à jouer un nouveau morceau ...
Pour ce qui en est du nouveau refrain posté pare Bernard, j'ai déjà une proposition vocale ... par contre il me semble que ce nouveau refrain ne s'intègre pas à 100% avec ce qui est avant ... peut être cela doit il murir aussi ... Par contre il y a deux guitares mais la balance fait que l'on n'en entend distinctement qu'une seule. Peut être qu'un petit rééquilibrage pourrait être porteur.

J'ai fait ça vite fait histoire de pas oublier ce que j'avais en tête (que de hits ont disparu dans les méandres de ma mémoire ;-). J'ai pas eu le temps de spatialiser tout ça : tout est au centre et se chevauche. De plus il manque des éléments pour entrer, sortir de ce motif et s'intégrer au reste. j'ai ça en tête... et j'espère pas tout oublier