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Message par Jaeger Mar 28 Avr - 8:14

It's a bit different than the other FL tracks, but I don't think it's completely opposite style wise.
Somehow I feel this could be made into a 10 minute epos, but not sure if it has enough for that.

Well, I decided to post as is - work in progress - see in the Gmail.

Post your thoughts on it.

Based on feedback, I will work more on it this week...

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Message par Bernie Mar 28 Avr - 8:26

Ok, I will check this one asap
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Message par Duke Mar 28 Avr - 9:22

Thanks for the tempo & key !!!! Wink
I listened to it twice ... here are my comments ...
00'00"-00'25": I must admit I don't like that riff ... it lacks substance ... it is just a chain of notes but there isn't much happening in there
00'25-00'37": Then ... spark! ... very cool ... headbanging part
00'37-01'01": Even cooler that guitar on the right that brings air & freshness. This is for me typical Free Launch guitar style ...
1'01"-1'50": Great melody, great harmonics ... a lot of place for the vocals ... the synth in the back holds everything up! 01'25" Different way of playin ... Lovin' it all! Great part!
1'50"-2'14: The transition between the two is perfect ... very smooth ...
2'14-2'27': That opening riff that I still dont like but the 2 pedal base drum should be kept ...
2'32" Great stop and go effect ...
3'03" That decay effect ... is just awesome ... it works so well with what is happening on the second layer (that straight forward guitar) ... The effects you are using make that song stand out ... It really brings a very creative and professional touch to it ... 2 THUMBS UP!!!
3'40" Again that riff that I don't like ... Smile

Anyway ... I already tried something vocally ... I believe It might be interesting ... I will post it later ...
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Message par Jaeger Mar 28 Avr - 9:37

Wow, thanks for the nice feedback.

The idea with the 00-:25 was to have a "bang" opening, but maybe the riff needs something else, I'll try some stuff.

On the :37-1:01 part I think the second guitar needs a less clean sound, it bites a bit with the heavy riff below.

2:32 stop and go is very Metallica inspired, I hope it doesn't show too obviously Embarassed

Can't wait to hear some vocals on it. Also let me know if you need one part longer/shorter to accomodate with your phrasing ideas.

Got some meetings with the outplacement agency today and need to prepare quite a bit, so hopefuly some more time to work on it tonight/tomorrow, before I go to DE.
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Message par Bernie Mar 28 Avr - 9:41

I've listened to it very quickly (i'm at the office). Great job. This piece is the most convicing one. I like the guitars that give a progressive feel however they are quite simple chords. I suggest the vocals would be placed very low. This song makes me think a little bit to Deathstars or to some king of after punk stuff. Very interresting!!
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Message par Jaeger Mar 28 Avr - 9:48

Bernie a écrit:I've listened to it very quickly (i'm at the office). Great job. This piece is the most convicing one. I like the guitars that give a progressive feel however they are quite simple chords. I suggest the vocals would be placed very low. This song makes me think a little bit to Deathstars or to some king of after punk stuff. Very interresting!!

Cool, great you like it. cheers

Now I'm gonna listen to Deathstars, are they in itunes? What a Face

What do you think about the idea to add a guitar lead/harmony part? Maybe it could be too much or it would really add something?
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Message par Duke Mar 28 Avr - 9:49

2:32 stop and go is very Metallica inspired, I hope it doesn't show too obviously
Well ... I haven't noticed ... It's not obvious ... at least to me.
About the length ... don't worry about that right now ... I can still make a rough edit to give an idea ...
I found something for the 1'01" to 2'14" part ... It's very much improvised but there is something ... Cool
Now lets wait for the others' comments ...
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Message par Mr White Mar 28 Avr - 9:58

It's a bit different than the other FL tracks, but I don't think it's completely opposite style wise

For me, it's in the same way. I really like the part at 1'00 and 3'05 to the end. A lot of place to put the vocals.
The riff at the beginning is a bit "abrupte et agressif par rapport au reste du morceau".
Good job, Chris
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Message par Jaeger Mar 28 Avr - 10:35

Mr White a écrit:It's a bit different than the other FL tracks, but I don't think it's completely opposite style wise

For me, it's in the same way. I really like the part at 1'00 and 3'05 to the end. A lot of place to put the vocals.
The riff at the beginning is a bit "abrupte et agressif par rapport au reste du morceau".
Good job, Chris

Great you like it, too!

Hey did you hear that I even played bass on some parts? Not with the fingers though, pick in guitarist style . Rolling Eyes

Bass is very different from guitar after all - I'd love to be able to invent bass lines like Flea or Guy Berryman, but I am very, very far from that, so my bass is always gonna be boring chords following just the guitar. Would be great if you could work out something more avantgarde runs in the calmer sections.
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Message par Duke Mar 28 Avr - 10:57

Jaeger a écrit:Great you like it, too!
Maybe it doesn't mean a lot to you but my"wife" likes it too. She said it's very "Free Launchish" ... and she also likes my vocal melody ... but there, she has to! Smile
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Message par ExtraPaul Mar 28 Avr - 11:57

Very good work, Chris !
I like all (and the into guitar too) and I love the clean chorused guitar and the fx at 3'03" (what is it ?).
Very rich sound and variations.
Not enough Free Launchish ?
Because there is no synth, no Phil voice, that's all !...
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Message par Duke Mar 28 Avr - 12:16

This is a complete Strike or Bull's eye or Ace ... whatever you call it ... cheers
My voice is coming ... hold on a bit ... Cool
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Message par Jaeger Mar 28 Avr - 14:13

ExtraPaul a écrit:Very good work, Chris !
I like all (and the into guitar too) and I love the clean chorused guitar and the fx at 3'03" (what is it ?).
Because there is no synth, no Phil voice, that's all !...
drunken

Thanks dude. Yeah, regarding synth and voice, to make it easier, I'll do some more work on it tomorrow and also share single tracks, so you guys can import multi track in your sequencers and have a go.

The "Effect" is just 5 or 6 super short and super close midi notes (like 256th notes or so, makes it sound like an old door opening - an old trick from my techno days rabbit ).

I also had recorded some filter sweeps (TB-303 like tones) but they got lost at the export, will redo ...
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Message par Duke Mer 29 Avr - 8:54

Voilà un premier jet sur le couplet dans Gmail ...
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Message par Bernie Mer 29 Avr - 9:44

Pas mal du tout. On a l'impression d'entendre la voix de Kahn (de Kamelott ;-)
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Message par Mr White Mer 29 Avr - 12:01

Je verrais bien une voix un peu moins crooner et un tantinet plus dure à partir de 50sec. Mais vu les conditions ( Wink ) c'est déjà un beau jet.
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Message par Jaeger Mer 29 Avr - 12:16

Duke a écrit:Voilà un premier jet sur le couplet dans Gmail ...

I didn't get the first 35 seconds, but then around 00:40 man, the sun is rising, I get the shivers on my back, great job!!!!! cheers

And now (as you left it in the mix) I can really understand why you don't like that part you don't like Laughing
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Message par Jaeger Mer 29 Avr - 12:24

I am posting some lead parts, but not sure if they shouldn't rather go in the trash bin.... Suspect
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Message par Duke Mer 29 Avr - 12:31

Jaeger a écrit:I didn't get the first 35 seconds
Well ... I wanted a progression that led to the more melodic part at 00'38" ... and I think the beginning makes that part stronger ... Should I still keep it or not?
Oli, ... oui ca aura plus de coffre ... mais là je suis en mode ... veilleuse Smile
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Message par Jaeger Mer 29 Avr - 12:36

Duke a écrit:
Jaeger a écrit:I didn't get the first 35 seconds
Oli, ... oui ca aura plus de coffre ... mais là je suis en mode ... veilleuse Smile
My Apple dictionary says: "Oli,… yes that will have more trunk… but there I am in mode… pilot"
Laughing

Guess I gotta still improve on my slang-french Laughing
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Message par Jaeger Mer 29 Avr - 12:38

Duke a écrit:
Well ... I wanted a progression that led to the more melodic part at 00'38" ... and I think the beginning makes that part stronger ... Should I still keep it or not?

Guess progression is good ... maybe need to hear it in context ... depending on the part that would be before that, it could work well
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Message par Duke Mer 29 Avr - 13:53

Vu que cette mélodie plait ( cheers ) je vais peaufiner ça ... pour ce qui en est de la progression je pourrais peut être plus la placer vers la fin ... sur le passage avec l'effet midi ... je vais tenter ça ....
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Message par Bernie Mer 29 Avr - 14:51

Faut aussi trouver le refrain qui va rentrer direct dans la cage à miel Very Happy
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Message par Mr White Mer 29 Avr - 15:38

Tes expressions m'étonneront toujours!!!! Wink
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Message par Bernie Mer 29 Avr - 16:28

Jaeger a écrit:
Duke a écrit:Voilà un premier jet sur le couplet dans Gmail ...

I didn't get the first 35 seconds, but then around 00:40 man, the sun is rising, I get the shivers on my back, great job!!!!! cheers

And now (as you left it in the mix) I can really understand why you don't like that part you don't like Laughing

Same for me about the vocals. about the part doesn't like : I like this part very much. Especially with the tension in the harmonised guitars. This part should be kept I think it more interresting that the metallica-like part.
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