The Eye (new track from Chris)

Well, as the date with Bernie didn't happen today, I used the time to put down some riffs and beats, having FreeLaunch in mind obviously.

Now listening I'm not sure if it's the right direction for FL, might be too far off to be useable.
I mean I'm sure it would be OK to bring some "Jaeger" into the new songs, but it shouldn't be 180° different.

So that's why detailed feedback would be appreciated regarding the style, quality, what is lacking, what is too much, etc.
Please be honest, we're all grown ups, and I'm not religious about my stuff, always happy to improve/change!

Also wanna spend some time on Bernies work in progress stuff.

So here's the clip: http://www.klangforschungszentrum.de/temp/the_eye.mp3

Hey Chris ... nice job ... !!!
I will give you my comment just after giving you a few tips about how we usually proceed when somebody has an idea for a song ... We usually send it to our Gmail address ... Why? Because:
-so we can download the song and listen to it whenever we want to
-it's the best way to keep all the ideas at the same spot. It is our archive's drawer.
-everybody in the band knows where to look for it.
Maybe they didn't give you the Gmail address ...
When something is posted, it's required to give the tempo as well as the key of the song. I use garageband ... so I can drop the file in the program and mess around with with it ... put my vocal trials on top, add a loop, ...
This may sound a bit rigid but we found out throughout the years that it is the best way to keep track of everything ... It's our evolving library.

Now your song ... The eye ...
You are definitely grasping what we sound like. I'm speaking for myself but what I like to hear in our songs is layers ... And guitar wise ... you get it. Different sound, different way of playing, different theme, ... It's all in there!!!!
Example at 1'14" (a pinch of Metallica "For whom the bell tolls" in there).... 1'31 ... It's powerful yet there is a more melodic feeling to that part ... I like that ...
At 2'12 ... the break ... in my opinion it is not at it's place ... For me it doesn't fit what is before and what comes after ... It is maybe the way it is brought in ... that needs some adjustment ... or that part will maybe work better in another song ...
I like the outro too ... with that little synth sound ...
So I also appreciate what you wrote in your post:
Please be honest, we're all grown ups
Don't worry if there is something that I don't like or I feel it is not appropriate ... or it can be a lot better ... I will let you know!
Hope you will do the same with me ... That's called "stimulation"!

Good feedback there Duke, yeah that part at 2:12 is maybe a bit dumb

If someone can send me the gmail login, I can also post multitrack (Logic export, track by track) so you guys can play around with them even more, replacing guitar/snyth/drum parts or rearranging bits within the track.

I just send you a "PM" to give you the details to access that account ...

Good things in this piece. Very dark. I like the progression. However indeed to "fit" the FL standards, I would suggest that some parts will be played by a synth.

But I'm sure your stuff will be used

some parts will be played by a synth
We are waiting Paul's reaction ...

(It's too difficult for me to explain my opinion in english so, sorry Chris...)
Voilà une base intéressante, mais plus proche du rock mainstream que de Free Launch. On est dans une chanson "d'ambiance": Philippe aime ça et ce ne serait pas la première fois que ce style soit proposé dans le groupe.
Mais je ne crois pas que c'est là-dedans que le groupe est le plus fort, et que c'est ça que l'on attende de nous: on peut le laisser aux autres... groupes américains. C'est dans le style Free Launch que Free Launch est le plus fort: rythme entraînant, arpégiateurs, breaks...
Je ne retrouve pas les éléments de base dans "The eye" pouvant aller dans cette direction.
Ce qui n'est pas le cas de "Him", posté le 31 janvier, par exemple...

Please be honest, we're all grown ups

Eh bien voilà!

mais plus proche du rock mainstream
Je ne trouve pas que c'est mainstream du tout ... soit! Ce que je conçois c'est que cela manque de place pour le synthé, et que cela manque de "hook", d'accroche ...
Je trouve cela dit que le travail de guitares va dans la bonne direction ... et c'est cela que je soulignais plus haut.
Maintenant, à nous de lui donner des nonos pour qu'il puisse faire ses dents: chanson en chantier, idée à exploiter, ... pour voir son input ...
Mais pour un premier jet, je trouve ça nous seulement engageant, mais aussi motivant de voir qu'il n'a pas peur de proposer ... alors qu'il intègre un "univers" qui a déjà quelques années ...

Essayons de développer ensemble "Give me truth", "Him", et "Tribal Trouble" ...

Il y a "Amorphisable" qui a un sacré potentiel aussi ...

Je pense qu'une des principales difficultés pour composer pour un groupe dans lequel on débarque est qu'il faut bien connaitre les autres musiciens. Quand je compose un morceau je tiens compte du style de chacun des musiciens. Si j'ai une idée d'une passage basse ou batterie j'essaie d'éviter les trucs qui sonnent bien mais qui sont injouables. Il faut également tenir compte de la place qu'occupe chacun. Bref pas mal de paramètres à gérer.

Je suis aussi en train de bosser sur un morceau et je ne sais pas si ça va cadrer avec FL. Mais bon je proposerai et si vous n'en voulez pas je le remettrai dans ma culotte comme dirait l'autre

je le remettrai dans ma culotte comme dirait l'autre

Mais non, tu le récupère pour ton side-project, pardi!

T'as un side-project aussi ?

des tas

Ton allemand n'est plus très bon, Bernard ... On dit "die tasche"!
C'est l'abbé Peeters qui serait déçu!